Per parent's request:
I would like say something to the people in the board,why we need pay the high salary to Principal, why we can't do like other Chinese in North American, everybody in the school is volunteer, and use tuition fee for our kids, or low the tuition fee more affordable for our society, I know some family have more kids they can't afford all the kids go to school, that shame of our society! I believe everybody in this school have ability teach their kids Chinese at home, so why we sent kids to this school? Because we believe this way our kids can learn better, we should stop this kind of issue , put more attention to our kid's learning issue.做些实实在在的事情，别玩花架子
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Like any business, cost reduction is alway a goal. Should our school follow? I think so! Lower our tuition to make it more affordable for all families. Personally, I do not like the idea that every kid has to subscrib "yu wen bao". We have three copies at home and the kids never showed interesting to read it.
I agree with the opinions and comments posted here. The reason we send our kids to school is to get them involved in more interactions in Chinese community positively while parents also can enjoy the hours sitting there to wait for kids. A harmonized, friendly, healthy enviroment is the key.
It's natural that BOD members shouldn't be compensated money-wise while adminstration staff including Principal should be paid even in not-for-profit orgnizations. But, in this school, sounds like salaries have been paid ridiculous and unfair, powers have been distributed unevenly. An univeral and comprehensive orgnizational policy needs to be updated based upon so-called "By-Law".
中文学校的大部分家庭都是中产，我们的思维方式已经固定了。看到还有交不起学费的家庭，心里真不是滋味。
董事会的信上不是说可以由董事代校长吗？就这样不就行了吗？不拿钱的董事一定不拿钱的校长更爱中文学校。
不用付校长的钱的话，一年可以帮多少孩子啊！
作为应急办法,由校董代理校长是可行的,至于拿不拿钱,在这种非常时刻并不重要,可以象征性的拿一块钱.
但是本人认为既然是经济社会就要用经济规律办事.即使是非赢利组织,其运营机构的工作人员,也就是雇员,都是应该拿钱的,否则就违背了规律,事情也就办不好了.我觉得美国作为发达社会的楷模,重要的一点就是承认"自私"是人文价值的一个要素,做事拿钱是天经地义的.但是,人的行为不可能用自我的觉悟来限制,例如象校董事会这样的机构的有效介入是非常必要的.
本人非常赞赏员工工资的横向调查和比较的做法,尽管每个学校的个性不同,发薪标准可能不完全一样,但是原则上应该没有多大出入.
Very good comments which show we all concern our school's future.
$30,000 for a Saturday school's principal is ridiculous. However, if we choose volunteer principal, then we cannot require she/he do too much, volunteer is volunteer, which is not suitable for day to day work.
Board has board's job, which should not be for directly controlling the school's administration. If BOD can fulfill a principal's duty, then it is not board, it is not good BOD either.
BOD, administration, and PTA are three separate bodies of a school. Each fulfill its duty well, then the school can run well. Whenever any one of them has super power, the consequence is just like today's Chinese school. In the past of our school's history, the Principal always has too much power. Actually, it may go to the other direction extremely, like BOD has too much power. If BOD controls both administration and BOD, then who will supervise the BOD? We should avoid this kind of consequence either.
Thanks to the blog.
Constructive advice, argument, even challenge is always helpful. I disagree a little bit about superpower. BOD is superpower on top of chief of the operation, this is the rule and practice anywhere in this country. BOD is a group of members instead of an individual, supposedly, its decisions and opinions represent stakeholders interests. If BOD of this school is accepted by majority of stakeholders, mainly students' parents in this case, its requests and decisions should be honored and implemented.
Of course, BOD members should be elected by majority of Parents. I don't know the rules of election in this school, generally, 2/3 students' parents of the total who are interested in voting should be counted as majority.
PTA is an interesting body in this school, do they really represent parents' rights? This is a question instead of a statement, don't get me wrong I am challenging PTA's legitimacy and authority.
How to draw more attentions from parents in order to let them being involved is critical. The more they offer their opinions and utilize their powers, the less unfairness will be surfacing.
I wonder whether we have some kind of internal control in place so that abuse of power would be prevented. for example, do we have dual signature in place for NWCS checks? or do we have a Finance Committee on the Board that will oversee the financial management of NWCS? do we have someone from the Board/Finance Committee review bank reconciliations?
we need to hire qualified honest people to do the job. in the meantime, we have to have system/policies in place to prevent any abuse of power. too much power without any balance will lead to corruption.
噢阿，你们都太有才了，6月9号学校的听证会你们可都要去啊，把这些话说给大家听听。
现如今好好一个中文学校搞得还不如个生产大队，就是有才知理的人不说话，好丢脸哦！！
OK. This is Peter Huang, Chair of the Board. I need to respond to this posting, because you give our board, including myself, honest opinion and recommendation. So, thank you.
Peter在这儿回应，感觉他是个真诚的人，认真做事的，咱们支持一下他。6月9号的听证会我一定去。可叹的是周淋真是没有道德，在老师的会上竟然赖着不走，脸皮也够厚的。
Sorry, please let me know continue... I love this school and our Chinese community, and that is why I come out to become a board member to serve all of us. I respect your comments, but I also want to encourage you to step out (instead of using anonymous) to contribute, and that fits with our tranditions. Good men leave their names. I am not afraid of what I do, because I think it is a right thing to do.
That being said, I would like to ask for three things from you.
1. Attend our 6/9 Open Hearing and ask questions.
2. Get involved more constructively in our PTA or Board or Teaching activities
3. Show your true identity, we should more be friends, life is short, we need to have some FUN!
Out
Peter
我认识peter是5月9号的22个家长和董事的会。 在会上我才知道他也是8个来申请校长的候选人之一。 让我感动的是，peter来申请的时候还以为这个职位是没有酬劳的。当他知道有偿后，主动撤出了。这些在会的所有的人都听见了。
你们不知道周林是一个非常善于打击报复的， 那真叫顺我者昌，逆我者亡。除非是不想在中文学校混了，还是别得罪周林和刘瑾浩他们。
刘瑾浩，陈鸿业，你们支持周林，但是你们真的了解她吗？你们如果真的在乎的是中文学校，你们因该再想一想如何做。
哈哈,看了上面这位的留言,难道这里还有什么"FUN"可言吗?
我不了解您提的这几个人,但是如果真是这样黑暗,那就更应该有不在乎要不要在中文学校混的人出来介入了.所以一般公司里董事会的成员都是与公司执行长官没有直接利害冲突,甚至与该公司没有任何关系的人士担任.当然一点关系没有也不可能,比如投资公司就要派人进来.但是原则上是起监督作用的人员理论上不受被监督人的影响.另外,公司内部的审计人员直接向董事会报告,不受执行官操纵,尽管薪水还得公司来发.
另外,也别怕打击报复,大家来美国都变的"入乡随俗"了,在中国混的时候,不知这里多少家长也都是见过世面的,谁怕谁啊?!这回有点董事长追求的"FUN"了,呵呵.
I made the comment about internal control/dual signature of checks, etc. I did it as anonymous because I didn't want to take the time to set up an account. but I'm not afraid to leave my name here.
Peter, I'm touched by your willingness to contribute to the NWCS community. I'd like to help in anyway I can - I'll be at the 6/9 open hearing for sure.
Zhiwei Lin
I viewed the school finacal report, can any body tell me PTA's income and expense, why been a PTA member we never see PTA's Finacal report? Around $40k's income for PTA.
Peter:
I disagree with your request to open your identity. I know you are planning logistic of 6/9 principal candidates hearing tomorrow. But why this tomorrow meeting invite those 22 people instead of all parents? Should this type of meeting be kept within board plus chairman of PTA?
This is the mail for the meeting:
To protect sender, to, cc line email address, (respect people's privacy) I remove their email address:
Here is the email:
from: Jinghao Liu
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:04 PM
To: June Hu
Cc: board@nwchinese.org; Jay Na; Jun Meng; lluping;
carolynliu; hongqi_tian; jun_shen;
m99xu; ming.chen; mingqili;
pehuang; renyxu; christinac818;
weijunwa; wenzxu; jennifer.lu;
v-yama; yezhulu; xjz915;
zhihuahu12; dongshi02; gao Li
Subject: Re: June 9th NWCS principal candidates open hearing logistics
I'll be there by 10am.
On 5/31/07, June Hu (jhurenton) wrote:
Hi all,
Shall we meet this coming Sat. to iron out/finalize the logistics for 6/9
Principal Candidates Open Hearing? I should be free by 10 am as I'll be
distribute the visa from 9 am.
June
Cops, How do we knoe you are peter?
From regular school, never heard PTA chair is leading people choose Principl. Is NWCS is special?
Who is meeting with who tomorrow?
It is me again. As the meeting subject indicated, the meeting is to make a logistic plan for 6/9 hearing. Thanks for those volunteers and PTA chairman for thinking of those detail. I applause those efforts. But when I look into this mail, I am thinking of NWCS by-law. Should this meeting the responsibilities of Board. Why PTA chairman invite board plus those volunteers to plan it? (those volunteers are pretty much the same as those 22 members in one of the meeting minutes in this blog http://nwcssaga.blogspot.com/2007/05/open-letter-from-pta-who-is-leading-our.html ) Should this letter come from Board?
I did NOT call any meeting tomorrow. I think it is Jinghao, the original 22 parents group. Anyone can go.
I will be in PTA duty from 12:00 to whenever, wearing the jacket :-). You can find me and have a chat.
Cheers...
Peter Huang
Electing the Principal of this school is critical because the person in this position will lead the School up to next level.
Does this school have Mission Statement? Does principal candidates have their visions for the development and advancement of the School?
I don't know this process of election, one of the most critical steps probably is the Open Hearing you guys have been mentioning dozens of times here. I bet BOD will outline the bullet points for candidates' speech or presentation. My understanding is that each candidate should provide and express her or his:
1. Vision to leading the School to the right direction;
2. Revise Mission Statement, if any, to accommodate School current status;
3. Financial Management Planning, including Pro Forma P&L, Balance Sheet and Cash Flow - Source & Use Format (Not GAAP Format for Reporting)
4. Personnel Management, including positions arrangement and hiring/rehiring plans for ADMIN Staff, faculties
5. Educational goals in terms of students' learning achievement
6. Risk Management in terms of backup plan under certain possible and foreseeable urgent scenarios
Principal is a paid position, candidates need to know election is a serious process for which they have to be prepared more than they might think before.
June Hu and Jinghao are really working on the process of hiring the principal. Jinghao and June Hu thinks they should and only they can handle everything for Chinese school. If we do not have Jinghao, can the school be run smoothly? No, absolutely not. Zhoulin is Jinghao's daughter's previous teacher. Lots of motivation behind this scene. He is ruining his reputation.
Peter, here again.
I like someone posted 1-6 points on what we need to work on. Very constructive. Some of them were my action items as well. Let's go through this election process and work on some strategic goals. Let's revive our volunteerism as well! Let's discuss how much we can give to our community, rather than how much we can contribute!
Cheers!
Peter, when will be the open hearing on 6/9? I may have missed some of your emails. I love to be there.
I am sure you guys will think about establishing a scholarship system in future that will make sure every family who need financial aid can come to study Chinese.
But, let's fix the principle issue first.
I am sending the announcement for 6/9 now. Benjing and June will host the event, jointly. Not just PTA, but Board as well. Please come and support our candidates.
We also need everyone to be calm and ask questions in an orderly fashion and give all candidates respect.
I am sorry that I cannot attend this event in person, because I will be in a business trip at NYC. But, I will pray for the event and wish it being successful!
Recently, I'm so surprised to learn that NWCS has $300K saved money! Why didn't these money spend on the education of our children? Just because we parents want our children learn Chinese and the culture, so we'd have to pay higher tuition such that they can save these money for God know what for?
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